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Substack Joe's avatar

As someone who has always been EA-aligned but very wary of getting involved, this does an admirable job of diagnosing and proposing solutions (as it should, you are Will MacAskill!).

I broadly agree with what you outlined here but I want to make two points you should consider further.

1) from my experience in these spaces EA tends to draw from a very elitist pool of young people who have time to do free work or have 20 rounds of interview and test time to participate. That does not make a broad-based group, particularly along social strata lines.

2) there is a lack of interest and appreciation of other fields. There have been numerous times I’ve spoken to individuals very passionate about risk who dismiss very basic risk management principles and are trying to reinvent them on their own. If they don’t work, sure, jettison them, but you have to respect the industry and experience enough to understand it.

I want to be clear that those two points are in addition to what you outline above, because I think the whole suite of topics are mutually beneficial. If you want an effective EA it needs to broaden and be more flexible about what and who it includes.

John of Orange's avatar

This is so pathetic. What is the evidence that people are meaningfully able to "transition to cause areas", how would that even work. What is this hypothetical pool of highly engaged, abstractly skilled people who are sitting around "choosing between cause areas" and what's actually supposed to happen once they've chosen. The entire thing is so transparently reverse-engineered around the existing needs and worldviews of elite grandee college kids, without admitting it.

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